Your Career Choices after Graduate School and The Most-Neglected Item in your Career Development (2015)

By Gerhard Klimeck

Electrical and Computer Engineering, Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN

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    Daniel Mas Montserrat

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    This lecture invites you to think about your future. It tries to get some insight to graduate students about what should expect after graduation. It has a format similar to the seminar of National laboratories vs industry vs academia. It talks about industry vs academia vs research jobs by providing some personal experience. It introduces some pros and cons on the different types of jobs in an objective manner. The pros and cons and the main ideas are similar to the ones exposed on the lecture National laboratories vs industry vs academia although this lecture adds some concepts on communication skills (how you are presented to other co-workers, boss, etc) and some steps and ideas to communicate and present your ideas efficiently. It follows by presenting some skills that are important to get a job but are not explicitly taught during your phd.

     

    This presentation is good overall and the slides help to follow the presentation. The lecturer speaks in a good pace and makes the lecture dynamic.

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    Yang Yan

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    Since Master's program is relative short for accommodating to college life and at the same time investigating what kind of life that different choices would finally result in. It is hard to estimate the future. However, this presentation explicitly explains different choices would end up with what kind of working environment by introducing the speaker's personal experience. Also he illustrate how this course would help us in acknowledge how our career would be like or at least showing multiple possible plans after graduation. And he emphasis the importance of communication skills in job seeking as well as in career planning. 

    As for a speaker, his speaking is easy to follow and have reasonable pauses. I like his manner, specifically his gestures and movements, in this speech.

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    Jialiang Yu

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    This lecture gives me valuable advice on my future plan. I was always thinking what to do and where to go after my graduation. Since my graduation from undergraduate, I chose computer engineering as my major and tried to find a job in a technology company. However, this is not my goal for my whole life. I like social science more than technology and wish to develop my career into a field that matters the whole nation. This lecture gives experience in research and company which provides me a lot of advice in my career path. Besides the style of jobs, the speaker also gives a crucial thinking about communication. I strongly concede that communication is an important skill for a person that wants to be successful. In most situation, communication decides the direction the things heading to. I'm going to begin my career in industry, so I will pay enough attention to my communication skills and try to express myself as clearly as possible.In all, the lecture gives me a chance to rethink about myself. I really learned a lot in this lecture.

     

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    Tyler Dean Rodriguez

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    Professor Klimeck starts off by explaining that graduate students are already considered “successful & smart.” I don’t think this is true anymore, but maybe it was true at his time of graduation. It is probably still true for the majority of graduate students. He makes this point because he goes on to say that we should carefully choose our career choices and not just take anything that comes at us. We have the ability to choose our own career path. He hints at the “missing item” that we need.

    He identifies three major areas, industry, government, and academia. He starts of by giving us his own experience in industry research. I thought his 80-20 rule was interesting. It essentially says that there is an elite group of people, the 20%, that are driving 80% of the innovation and work. Government labs are the next area he discusses while giving his own personal story. In government, it is important to know that government funding plays a critical role in how much research is available to do. The final area is academia. Academic institutions can be divided into two categories, research institutions and teaching institutions. He explains how Purdue is a research institution and gives the pros and cons of working at a research institution. Teaching institutions are the other type of academic institutions. He gives advice that students who truly want to research should think carefully about going to one of these schools, as it may be difficult to get funding or qualified grad students to help you with the research.

    He finally tells us that the missing item is communication skills. The first thing he points out is speaking to technical audiences is different than speaking to general audiences. He then goes on to speak about other forms of communications such as resume writing and elevator pitches. I thought one interesting note he made about himself is that he met all his bosses at least a half year before he got the job. This definitely changes the way I plan to look for jobs in the future.

    Eventually the topic of finding the first job comes back. He proposes what would happen if someone from the job we are applying to were to ask our advisor about us. In the advisor’s response, he proposes 8 different items that need to be in the letter. All the items are on the topic of good communication skills and he stresses that we should have these items worked on before graduation. He then explains the purpose of ECE 694 and how it applies to everything he has talked about so far. At this point of the talk, he sort of deviates from the material and talks about the requirements of the class. Some of this may be outdated, so future watchers should be careful. But it is still interesting to hear the real reasons behind 694 and what we are expected to get out of us.

    Professor Klimeck then gives his own short technical presentation. The topic is difficult to follow. He then explains that he did it on purpose to show an example of bad presentation. After that he talks about himself and gives us one final piece of advice: dressing appropriately matters.

    Overall I thought most of what he said was helpful. Especially his own personal experiences. I feel that speakers should give more personal stories and experiences because they help more than just spouting off clichés we hear at every career preparation lecture. Professor Klimeck did a good job of avoiding this.

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    Qixin Deng

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    Thanks for the video I have the chance to make up the seminar which I missed at the beginning of the semester. Prof. Gerhard Klimeck gives me a chance to think of the future before I graduate from the school. From the experience of the Prof. Gerhard Klimeck, I think more pros and cons of the different kinds of jobs, I should make the decision based on my own will, what I want to be in the following years, and follow my heart, and prompts me to make a plan for the 5 years after I graduate. Also this speak let me know how important communication is, which is also the most interesting part of the seminar. A good communicator should give a proper motivation to his/ her audience, convince them that this speak is worth of attention. After that, using easy words to make the audience feel more relax and delight, giving the audiences most intuitive solution. Finally, presenting a few technical details and future vision, to win the trust of the audiences and build a good impression of yourself. A good communication skill will help me do much better on jobs or researches. This speak also reminds me that building a good network with my teachers will do really good for my future, because both industry and academic school put a high value on the reference of those people. This is a really useful and practical seminar, Thanks Prof. Gerhard Klimeck.

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    Weifeng Xiong

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    Although this seminar is mainly for a fresh graduate student, but as a student who is going to graduate soon, I was still impressed by Prof.Klimeck's presentation. The presentation provided a clear view of the career in industry, academia, and government research institutes. It directly shows the real things we will work on in different careers. This helps me re-concern about what type of career plan works better for me, what type of career I really want to achieve. I also enjoyed the part of how to do effective communication and presentation. The presenter gave clear examples to show us how our works can be better understood by the audiences. Besides, the comments on reference letter help me to think about how to set up self development goals not only for graduate study, but for future careers. It also brought me some ideas about how to build up my own resume based on those bullets.

    Over all, a very good presentation, especially when I missed the first seminar in this semester. 

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    Rasika Kalwit

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    The seminar is very useful for all students irrespective of their educational level. It addresses different work cultures in corporate and government research labs, academia and industry. For a graduate student like me, it is about time for me to think about where I want to work in future. I also agree with having a 5/10 years goal for myself and actively try to pursue it. Personally, I am very suitable for a research lab culture in industry.  The lecture touches upon soft skills development which is very important to succeed in any of the above mentioned professions. The grad school is a great platform to improve your presentation and communication skills. Being a graduate student you need to face a situation where you need to explain your research, present semester work. The professor talked about the structure of a technical presentation inclusive of 1/3 time to engage the audience, 1/3 time to show beautiful solution, 1/6 time to technical details and 1/6 time to show the future vision. It is a very impressive design to keep audience engaged. Overall, working in any kind of environment requires you to be active, communicate effectively with your peers and dress to suit the occasion.

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    Anamitra Bose

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    I think the lecture was very helpful from a high-level career guidance perspective. The differences between a BS, MS and PhD described in terms of rules and methods provides an excellent perspective. The techniques mentioned to conduct successful research as a graduate student is also very insightful. The difference between research institutions and teaching institutions is an important distinction that is made in this lecture that is often overlooked. For someone looking to go into industry after graduation, the different types of jobs available within industry (research, development, production and management) is a great tool to make an informed decision.

    An addition that I think would make this lecture even more helpful would be an analysis of the advantages/disadvantages of getting a MBA after a MS degree versus continuing onto a PhD. A lot of graduate students pursuing their MS in an engineering field are often conflicted between continuing on to their PhD versus making a transition and getting a MBA. The "Urgency vs. Importance" graph is a fantastic visual representation of the challenges that almost all graduate students face on a daily basis. A little more time spent on this topic along with a few more real-life scenarios and their corresponding implications would help immensely.

    Overall, this lecture provides a very good starting point along with the tools and techniques to plan out a student's career growth not just during graduate school but also afterwards. 

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    Minghang Li

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    I think this lecture is very helpful. It includes some important points I concern. It compares the differences between bachelor, master and PhD, education and research, which I have never thought before. The professor introduces what can we do after graduate, including industry, research, development, production, or management. He also told us his working experiences. And it reminds me of preparing resume and reference letter from now, not before graduate. I should communicate with professors more, give them impression on me. They cannot recommend students they don't know. Classifying problems by emergency and importance is also very helpful for our future. What to mention in my presentation, how to manage time of each parts are really useful.

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    yinglai wang

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    This presentation truly cleared my thought about my future plan. When I was in undergraduate level, all I think is to find a job after graduation and make my own way to live. I have been confused about what to do since I started graduate study. After this presentation, I do have a better understanding in graduate level study and research. Research is the most important component in high level education, and this presentation made it very easy to understand.

    Three different kind of research were listed and welly explained. Speaker speaking from experience made the differences between all kind of research and being an employee of a company.

    Most importantly, this presentation reaffirms my confidence of finding something I want to do in the future. It also points our advantages and drawbacks as an well educated engineer. We do have the ability and the potential to choose our future, but communication skill is a problem for almost all of us.

    Overall, I learned a lot from this presentation that is useful for my future planning and 2 years graduate study planning.

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    Guangtong Shen

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    I benefit three aspects from this presentation.

    1. I get to know what it is like to do research in industry, in government labs and academia through Professor's real experience. That is a reference for me to choose what kind of job to do. But unluckily, there is no descriptions of US engineering work. I think lots of ECE Master graduates will choose to be an engineer or programmer these days.

    2. It is shocking to realize that course education do have missing items that a competent graduate should learn. Communication Skill are essential for career development. We solve most of our problems in career and life by selling our ideas or selling ourselves. Future more, I learn some practical skills on how to do a presentation. (Motivate the audience (1/3 time), then present intuitive solution (1/3 time), give technical details but only a few (1/6 time), show your future vision and planning (1/6 time). As we can see most time (2/3) is spent to get the audience engaged and interested.

    3. The contents of the request for a reference letter are a to-do-list for us to train ourselves. In addition to academic ability, we are required to have independent judgement, teamwork capability, presentation ability, administration skills etc.

    All the above are helpful for my career planning.

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    Xinchen Guo

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    This course is very helpful for new graduate students to think about future plan both in research and career development. A good preparation in PhD level is very important for future career after graduation. Among all those skills, communication skill is often neglected. A student needs to know how to connect with fellow researchers and future bosses effectively and efficiently. The rule of 1⁄3 motivation 1⁄3 intuitive solution 1⁄6 technical details 1⁄6 future vision provides a good guideline to form an attractive presentation. 

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    Li Xue

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    I love this report because it tells me how I can improve my presentation skills. Actually, the technical details frequently occupied most of the time in my previous presentation. I devoted most of my time to explain my project. However, at last, the audiences often complained that they didn’t understand what I wanted to convey and the equations led them to confusion. From this report, I know that it is not advisable to list all the equations out because people will get bored. So in order to attract people’s attention, we should spend less time on the technical issues and present more beautiful and intuitive solutions, as mentioned in the report. I learnt a lot of useful presentation skills, which are absolutely helpful to improve my communication skills, from this report. This report also opens the gate to my PhD study life. PhD study is about creating knowledge instead of learning other people’s knowledge. So pursuing my PhD degree will be more challenging and I am ready for this change. Painful but rewarding. I have learnt a lot and thank you for this report. 

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    Li Xue

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    I love this report because it tells me how I can improve my presentation skills. Actually, the technical details frequently occupied most of the time in my previous presentation. I devoted most of my time to explain my project. However, at last, the audiences often complained that they didn’t understand what I wanted to convey and the equations led them to confusion. From this report, I know that it is not advisable to list all the equations out because people will get bored. So in order to attract people’s attention, we should spend less time on the technical issues and present more beautiful and intuitive solutions, as mentioned in the report. I learnt a lot of useful presentation skills, which are absolutely helpful to improve my communication skills, from this report. This report also opens the gate to my PhD study life. PhD study is about creating knowledge instead of learning other people’s knowledge. So pursuing my PhD degree will be more challenging and I am ready for this change. Painful but rewarding. I have learnt a lot and thank you for this report. 

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    Hao Tian

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    This presentation is very useful for us to develop our career. It told us what researchers usually do in different institutions like company, government or university. This helps us choose the job that is suitable for us. And also we learnt the importance of communication with others and how to communicate. We should get the attention of the audience and convey the most important thing to them. We also learnt what skills that we should grasp during our graduate study, such as scientific ability, how to make presentation and cooperation, how to establish strong network. A successful resume will help us get a good job. We learnt what a good resume should be, that is to convey enough information in short time. This presentation helps me a lot about how to develop my career, how to communicate and make presentation. Thanks a lot!

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    Bangda Zhou

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    This presentation speaks for itself, it keeps me interested and focused through. One of the most important messages that Professor wants to deliver is that tackling the difficult problems and conducting good research is not good enough, there are still other '6 aspects' to be evaluated. As a graduate student, in order to deliver those '6', the communication skills are so important, which including the presentation skill, the short conversation skill, the skill to understand the audience, and many more. It is very hard to require the audience to keep focus and think hard to understand the content. Learned from this presentation, I would think my presentation in the future could start from the point of view adaptively determined. Besides, the detailed review of different working environment and the listing of pros and cons really help me envision what role could I play there and whether I would like it or not. Time management introduced by Professor is also very helpful to me. In the end, I like this presentation, and would like to review it in the future. Thanks nanoHub for recording and distributing this great piece.

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    Gustavo A Valencia

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    The video and the presentation have a important tips for the new graduate students. The most important things that I will keep in mind are:
    1. A low percentage of the attendees to a presentation understand the technical details.
    2. Use about 1/3 of your time to engage the audience.
    Additionally, I think that the ability to speak in public has a tremendous Impact on our career. Therefore, other important challenge is to become a good public speaker.

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    Kuang-Chung Wang

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    This video is good for giving out concrete example of possible future career on the standing point of a PhD. The pro and cons of different job opportunities. However, it will also b useful if more can be illustrated on how to do a good research. Are there rules or a checklist a Phd student can have to succeed? For example, how to tackle a hard problem? How many seminars to attend to broaden our views? How to manage time to establish a good work-life balance. 

    If the speaker can give us more info of his PhD life, it will definitely be a plus !!!

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    Brian Vaughn

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    I think the real appeal of this presentation is that it systematically goes through the most prominent career options that graduate students have after leaving school and breaks down the benefits and drawbacks of each option. Personally, I have always been unsure about what my long term goals should be and it was quite nice to receive some input regarding what I should expect from each option (although the advice was anecdotal, I still view it as credible).

    Additionally, the emphasis on communication skills was a great element of this presentation because I don't think many students really think about that as much as they should. This demonstrates the importance of communication and I find that to be valuable.

    Overall, very useful presentation.

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    Ci

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    The first part impressed me was about setting the goals for career. Before I watched this video, I only had a faint idea about working in the industry. But the presenter gave a detailed classification of jobs (research, development and production) with associating Pros and Cons, which was really helpful for me to pinpoint my job target. The presenter then emphasized the importance of communication, especially 60's elevator speech and being understood by whole audience. The importance of excellent communication skill was often overlooked by grad students. The presenter gave his own examples to illustrate how excellent communication skill helped him in getting new positions. Following that, he provided a guideline to give an engaging and inclusive presentation: 1/3 time to engage the audience, 1/3 time to teach the audience about your insights, 1/6 time to demonstrate your expertise and 1/6 time to show the future vision. He then give a demonstration on applying this technique. To me, the only thing I felt need to be added is that, in future vision part, the presenter did not specify potential application of the research, which can be very important to the general audience.

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    Vinayak

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    The most useful thing that I learned is the outline for an engaging and inclusive presentation. The 1/3,1/3, 1/6, 1/6 approach ensures that everything is covered in the presentation. It mitigates the problem of going over your presentation time. It helps you and your audience keep focused. The perspective of working in academia, industry, and government labs was very useful as well. The comparison and contrast between the three fields was very informative. I agree that communication skills (visual, oral, and written) is one of the most important and in most cases one of the most neglected topics. One more important point to be noted is that if you can't communicate well, then your work might turn out to be not as useful. Doing great work is important but being able to communicate it is equally important. Thank you for a great presentation.

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    Oscar Eric Sandoval

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    There were a couple of points from the presentation that really stuck with me. The first was the point of being, “greater than one-dimensional.” For me this has always been important. I enjoy Electrical Engineering, but I also enjoy playing basketball and reading the works of Earnest Hemingway. Staying in the lab all day will not lead to better research. Instead it will lead to frustration and doubt. I valued the way the different opportunities were broken up. Presenting the pros and cons of Industry, Government Labs, and Academia allowed me to understand where it is I would like to end up after grad school. I had the opportunity to perform an internship at a government lab this summer. I performed work on InAs quantum dots at the MIT Lincoln Laboratory. This is a place where I would like to work. But I also like the idea of working as a teacher at my undergraduate institution, Cal Poly Pomona. This is more of a teaching institution rather than being research driven. I enjoy the idea of teaching, but the idea of having to write grants and proposals along with teaching is not something I am interested in. The point that stuck with me the most was “The missing Item.” The skill of communication is pivotal to further success. I have always heard that, but I had not heard it put into such a concise manner. “You must be understood by the whole audience.” This idea will stay with me for a long time. I feel like my communication skills are not as good as they could be. These skills will be made better by practicing more, but also by implementing the presentation breakdown presented. I believe that as new graduate students we want to leave our mark and impress those that are more experienced than us. In doing so we want to speak in complicated jargon and show that we have a good understanding of the material. So when it is time to give a presentation we fill it with complex formulas and speak in complicated vocabulary. This is completely the incorrect approach! The information should be presented in such a way that, “I am talking to my grandmother.” From the whole presentation the main takeaway is having good communications skills. Working on these skills will mean being able to convey the results of work. You can have the most revolutionary invention, but if you cannot convey to your audience the importance of it or how you created it then it is useless. Listening to this presentation has made me want to work on both my presentation skills and on creating a better power point presentation. Another thing that the presentation made me do was write down my goals. I have come up with the following: • Attend grad school back home in California and obtain my PhD. • Help students in East Los Angeles attend college Establish an organization that will provide scholarships, tutoring, and mentoring. • Teach at my undergraduate institution, Cal Poly Pomona.

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    Yandong Guo

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    The first thing I learned from the seminar is about the description about different work pattern/styles in research lab, academia and industry. This is super interesting and useful to me since I am close to graduate and it is about time for me to think about where to go. Personally, after I viewed the lecture, I feel I like the research lab in industry more because I got the information that people can spend 90% of their time doing research. I will want to focus on something rather than dealing with people or fundings or some other weird things, while I do not care too much that I have to do something correlated with the industry problem. The second very useful point I learned from the lecture is about the presentation/resume/communication skills. After being a graduate student, I feel myself more and more difficult to be understood, which is common for a graduate student, I think or I hope. I used to blame audience for they can not understand me. Sometimes, I really hope they can be a little bit more patient. But the reality is that no one will be patient and it is MY responsibility to catch their interest. The structure that 1/3 time to engage the audience, 1/3 time to show beautiful solution, 1/6 time to technical details and 1/6 time to show the future vision is very impressive design. Moreover, the idea of “the 60 seconds rule to talk” reminds me to prepare a “60 seconds talk” for each of my previous research projects. And again, “the message from clothing” is another reminder that I need to find where my suit is before I leave the conference in early February.

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    Omar Laldin

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    I found this to be a very helpful outline of the career possibilities for a new graduate; it is bound to help during the “job search” phase of the degree. Additionally, the suggested outline of presentations to a broad audience is also very helpful, though I presume some modifications are appropriate if one knows the audience is more technical than less (i.e. as in a technical conference). Though I started to lose it a little on the tunneling diagrams, I found myself more readily able to appreciate the technical content regarding dealing with matrices of large systems.

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    Andrew C Marcum

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    I really enjoyed the recipe proposed for creating good presentations. As a grad student who also currently works in industry, I found the high level description of industry provided fairly accurate (especially the 80-20 principle). It was really nice to see some comparison of industry to academia and government funded research; this will help me decide what I want to do long term. I didn’t find the example technical slides too helpful. I know so little about the content that even with the engaging presentation style, I found it hard to follow. Overall, I found the seminar very helpful.

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    Wuyang Yu

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    At the very beginning, your speech revealed a lot for me the difference among industry, government laboratory and Academia as well as the difference among bachelor, master and PhD students from your wise perspective. This part would help me pretty much on understanding myself, understanding what I would love to choose as my career. Furthermore, the key point you conveyed later, the missing item repeatedly occurring in your previous slides which also questioned me, is communication skills. Yes, communication skills, a sort of basic and apparently irrelevant thing, however makes a difference and defines one’s success in some degrees. In the past, I was always focusing on the technical level. I remember in the opening report of my undergraduate thesis I was told by my advisor that my presentation didn’t describe well what I was working on and it confused those whose major was not the same as mine. Too many jargon and not enough background in my presentation. Nevertheless, your speech really shows me a few helpful tips on keeping attention and having impacts. I think I would review this lecture when I prepare a presentation in the future.

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    Brandon Blaine Gardner

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    As a beginning masters student, I found a lot of items helpful in this presentation: I really appreciated the in-depth comparison of the different job types. I also liked seeing the difference between research vs teaching institutions. In school you always hear that communication is the most important skill, but there is little follow-up or action associated with that statement. I enjoyed seeing a different view of how a technical presentation should be laid out. I felt that the example presentation could have been better selected (easier for ECE bachelors to understand) and that each part could have been identified. For example, “This was my transition from relevance to solution.” I also enjoyed the part on having impact, but I wanted more advice on how to be impactful. Finally, I liked that you suggested ‘sitting on presentations’ to pull out at a moments notice. This really hits home for me, as I have had many troubles in the past piking up where others have left off due to their lack of documentation. Presentations are a great way to provide this in an easy-to-understand way. I also liked the question/response regarding what to do if you find you are unprepared for a presentation; this might be a good item to include in future presentations.

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    Samiran Ganguly

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    a very important aspect of career that gets neglected in the pressure of publications/results. a concise summary of what essentially MBAs learn in 2 years. hope it becomes a must watch for every NCN student.

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